On 5/26/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/25/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/24/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/05/the_death_of_wi.php
It is worth noting that Nicholas Carr has taken note of this thread to announce the death of Wikipedia. Apparently, 154 articles semi-protected out of 1,151,768 is the end of open editing.
Not that your argument through statistics is in any way meaningful. 154 /1,151,768 is more than 100 ppm; 100 ppm of carbon monoxide,
mercury,
arsenic, sulfur dioxide, nitric oxide, vinyl chloride, formaldehyde, benzene, ammonia, etc. would kill you dead. Or at least give you any
number
of horrible cancers.
Water is fluoridated to 1 ppm.
Motorcycles cause 0.22 deaths per million vehicle miles. New Zealand has
100
maternal deaths per million births. Drugs kill about 100 per million
people
in US urban areas.
In other words, that 154 articles are semiprotected out of a population
of
1.2 million could be insignificant, great, or terrible.
But on its own it's just a factoid, not a counterargument.
This is pretty rich coming from someone who just complained that we shouldn't argue with appeals to emotion. If comparing semi-protection to mothers dying while giving birth to babies isn't an appeal to emotion, I don't know what is.
All your analogies are useless. The chemistry ones are just ridiculous, there is no analogy between how poisons damage the body to how semi-protection damages the encyclopedia. There's to much science you're ignoring, the way chemicals work.
The deaths per millions analogies are not only pretty cheap shots, they are also just as flawed. The reason why 100 maternal deaths per 1 million births is not a tragedy because it's such a high number (because it isn't), it's a tradgedy because people are *actually* dying. 1 death per million would be tragic. 1 death per billion would be tragic. The numbers are meaningless.
I was only pulling out death statistics because they're easy to find and because death is the topic. I stuck in the floridation example. I could have (and probably should have) put in more random stats, say of how much zinc we need.
I wasn't attempting to make any analogies between semi-protection in floridation or motorcycle crashes. I don't think there's any equivalency. I was merely pointing out that being "vanishingly small" is dependent on the situation.