On 2/25/07, Sage Ross sage.ross@yale.edu wrote:
On 2/24/07, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/25/07, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Standard practice has diverged considerably from the official line, and I agree with Phil that we need to amend WP:N in particular to be more accommodating of content where the subject can at least be verified to exist (e.g., webcomics, Battlestar Galactica episodes, marginally notable real people).
I can confirm that 30 million chemical elements exist.
Huh?
Should have been compounds.
Anyway that would be pretty minor compared to the couple of hundred million articles on stars.
Given that old enough census data is published with can confirm rather a lot of people exist as well. Confirming somthing exists doesn't mean much.
I said "be more accommodating"; I don't mean to imply that existence is sufficient. A measure of common sense
[[Wikipedia:There is no common sense]]
Common sense has no requirement to be logical or to be based on evidence and thus has no place in a rational system.
Of course we live in a world where there are huge social pressures to accept <s>bellyfeel</s> common sense
If you want a system that outsides have a hope of figuring out you will set up system that includes as little common sense as possible.
when assessing an article's reliability combined with a little looser official standards for notability is the main thing (i.e., accepting that some topics that people want to see in Wikipedia will have few good sources but keeping rather than deleting them is still a plus to the overall quality of Wikipedia).
[[WP:NOR]]
The problem I see there is failure to follow WP:WAF. Forcing that material into an out-of-universe perspective would bring out the best from what is indeed rough going in its present form; it would bring out the fact that conflicting interpretations exist and get much closer to NPOV than it is now.
-Sage
The "is Rorschach gay?" and the "did Rorschach survive?" sections were written from an out of universe perspective. As was the "interpretations by random people" section. [[Comedian (comics)]] if you look at the The "Smile" section a couple of those are pretty questionable.