On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Jake Nelson wrote:
- No article may be listed on AFD unless a serious attempt at
discussing cleanup, redirection, renaming, etc., has been made on the article's talk page.
So I couldn't AFD [[Bob's Used Cars]], an article on a hypothetical clearly non-notable organization that doesn't meet speedy deletion criteria, unless I had a pointless conversation on how this article which fails all Wikipedia guidelines could somehow magically be made to fit those criteria?
Let's be honest here - the VAST MAJORITY OF ARTICLES which get AFDed are deleted by clear consensus without controversy. We are talking about a small minority of controversial deletion decisions. Out of the 150+ nominations each day, fewer than 5 make it to DRV. Some get speedy-kept with no controversy, some get speedy deleted with no controversy and the rest get some sort of consensus, or a no-consensus keep.
-FCYTravis