On 24/02/2008, WJhonson@aol.com WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:17:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
geniice@gmail.com writes:
How exactly would you defend that under the doctrine of fair use? I really can't see a way to do it.>>
That might be because you don't have a fair grasp of what the doctrine states.
I have a reasonable understanding (under US law anyway there isn't enough Israeli case law yet ). But still if you think otherwise lets see your case.
Our copyright policy was for the most part put together by people who have at least a passing knowledge of copyright law. So fair you have failed to show that you do.>>
This is a fallacy. The copyright policy, like all others, was put together by us all.
Oh good then you will stop trying to fight it yes?
The copyright policy does not restrict fair use photographs except as far as copyright law does as well.
[[WP:EDP]] says otherwise.
The removal of all fair use photographs does nothing useful for the
project.
The project is to make a free encyclopedia.>>
Fair Use can be used inside a free project. Essentially you are repeating what I've already been saying. No fair use photographs are being allowed, at all. None. All fair use photographs are being removed, because certain people feel that any fair use photographs cannot be used within a free encyclopedia.
Last I checked en.wikipedia contained about 200K "fair use" images .
It does however harm it, by removing useful illustrations from articles that could use them,
So far for your chosen example this does not appear to be true.>>>
Yes it's true in that the article would then have no photograph of Patti Smith at all.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cgin03/1013970432/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288037254/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bakameh/531314040/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288037257/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fabiovenni/503167413/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288035117/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288035112/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Patti_Smith_and_Bono_at_the_Madison_Squar... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Patti_Smith
How many photos do you want?
That is not user-friendly. In general we support the addition of photographs to enhance the value of the project.
We do not however support weak or unnecessary fair use.
And I have never protested *when* a free use photograph is put into an article. The problem is not however this. But it is when a bot removes all fair use photographs and there *are* no free use photographs.
See above
Please address the problem which actually exists, instead of one which does not.
The problem of replaceable fair use images removing the incentive to find and upload free stuff? I think we have made rather a large dent in that problem.