On 7/13/06, stevertigo vertigosteve@yahoo.com wrote:
--- jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
If you're going to argue for neutrality, it would be helpful if you made more neutral suggestions. The current article name, [[2006 Israel-Lebanon-Hezbollah conflict]], is at least neutral, although it suffers from being unwieldy and a Wikipedia invention (i.e. original research).
Hey, dont hide an accusal of bias within a comment that purports to itself be neutral.
Aside from the fact that the title you give has the glaring issue of completely bypassing any notions of state sovereignty, and strangely represents a serious of hostile event as a "conflict," I think its perfectly fine.
Well, I didn't come up with the title, it's just what it happens to be called now. I'm not sure what you mean by "bypassing any notions of state sovereignty". Are you suggesting that Hezbollah, which is part of the Lebanese government, bypassed any notions of state sovereignty when it entered Israel, and attacked, killed, and kidnapped Israelis?
--- Dabljuh dabljuh@gmx.net wrote:
Do you consider replacing the title of "Holocaust" with "Jewish-Aryan conflict" as neutral as well?
I think this might be a Godwin's Law violation.
-Stevertigo
Yep. Aside from the fact that it's intentionally offensive, it's also ridiculous, as "The Holocaust" is the common English name, and we're discussing an event which does not yet have a common English name.
It's this kind of thinking and attitude that led to Dabljuh getting a permanent ban.
Jay.