On 24/04/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:09:56 +1000, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Imagine if we can come to some measure of peace with Brandt, so that he stops doing things that (quite rightly) irritate the community. Imagine if we end up with a short and properly NPOV article about him, and he is satisfied with it (though still perhaps wishing we would delete the whole thing, of course). Suppose the worst of the off-wiki behaviors stop, and suppose he just comes to post comments and complaints whenever the article about him appears biased.
OK, I know events have moved on and this is all moot now, but - wow. You are right, in the end, sometimes we have to try the brave thing. But some with emotional investment will not (did not) like it at all. Yes, I'm sure you understand how they feel. I'm not convinced you got that across. You are a gifted communicator, I will assume this was one of those instances where events outstripped the pace of measured communication and calm discourse.
Trying to redeem the irredeemable is always worth a go. I remember Linuxbeak's valiant attempts at this a while ago. He fell flat on his face on them, but it was still completely worth it for him to have tried.
- d.