"Rob Smith" nobs03@gmail.com writes:
On 3/1/07, Gwern Branwen gwern0@gmail.com wrote:
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:33:28 -0500 In-Reply-To:
52a8cf060703011842s2dca0df1qa405e56dda90650@mail.gmail.com
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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed --text follows this line-- "Rob Smith" nobs03@gmail.com writes:
On 3/1/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/1/07, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkbrad@gmail.com
wrote:
anything you do related to Wikipedia may now get viewed by a potentially hostile press and outside
community.it's dinged us somewhat in the
press, based on the blogosphere at least.
Actually this matter has been brewing for some time. Amazing
it
took this
long to bring attention to it.
True. It could've been discovered as far back as 7 January, if
I
may recount the timeline of events. It was 7 February that
Essjay
posted this: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Essjay&oldid=66549> On an interesting side note, it apparently wasn't until 21
January
that anyone noticed - that was when an anon user brought it up
on
[[User talk:Essjay]] <
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Essjay&oldid=1021610...
.
Given the anonymity, the name provided as a sig, and the linked website, I think we can conclude it was in fact Daniel Brandt
who
first noticed it http://www.whois-search.com/whois/216.60.71.100%20.> It is also interesting to note that Essjay never replied as [[User:Shanel]] quite quickly reverted it. (A lapse of
judgement?
I suppose so, in the same way Yanksox had a lapse of judgement deleting [[Daniel Brandt]]).
I'm not so certain of that; Yanksox registered an account with
WR 23 Feb
2007 9:08am http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showuser=1014
where he presumably read the series "Navigating flame wars of
the Daniel
Brandt controversy" (two hours is ample time) and promptly
deleted the
Brandt page on 23 Feb 2007 12:53pm. Ken Myers, author of
*Wikimmunity:
Fitting the Communications Decency Act to Wikipedia* registered
an account a
day earlier 22 Feb 2007 and was active on that board for several
hours at
the same time prior as well.
21st Feb 2007, 11:10pm
Yanksox deletes Daniel Brandt
Wed 21st Feb 2007, 4:10pm Ken Myers registers an account
That is interesting. I had only meant to express the sentiment that both removed something which could be defended and would be defended by a part of the community but which both should've known would in the long run be generally deprecated. I had no idea that Yanksox had deleted the article *after* joining WR, and not after (which is what I had thought). This certainly shines a different light on the matter, for me at least - wasn't Everyking punished for less?
I'm afraid I don't see the Myers connection, though. I skimmed his paper, but I didn't really understand it.