cprompt cprompt@tmbg.org wrote: james duffy wrote:
james duffy wrote:
I agree. People need to be able to discuss matters openly and
frankly. It
really is nobody else's business but the people on the mailing list
what is
said on that list.
Well, I don't agree at all. Wikipedia is a transparent public project, what we do is all out in the open for anyone to see.
Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
Communication on this list should only be available (a) through a carefully restricted means (eg, through being a contributor to wikipedia), not simply through a google search, and (b) perhaps with some time delay mechanism. There is, for example, a US Democratic Party political consultant called James Duffy, a soccer manager called James Duffy and a number of others. What happens if someone does a google search, finds attacks made on me under the name of this email account and presumes it was some other 'James Duffy', one with a public profile. That is why organisations 'always' provide restricted access to discussions such as those here, usually with a time delay mechanism. They universally find that unrestricted access blocks free discussion and prevents, not encourages, free speech.
Many organizations also restrict what parts of their website can be edited, if any. They restrict access to their services to those without an account, and they verify accounts. Personally though, I think some protection should be offered against "ego surfing" where information on a person from the list is indexed in Google. This can still be an open and transparent public project with a fully searchable mailing list archive. I think that anyone should be able to search the archive only after clicking an appropriate link on Wikipedia.org.
many people block all javascript, and (AFAIK) javascript is necessaryto tell the source page. If it may be achieved with PHP, people also can disable all requests of a source page (as I do). Without the sourcepage, there is no way to force a link from wikipedia.org. Plus, I see no reason to make the mailing list inaccesable to googlers. I often find a lot of information about open source software from either the direct mailing list archive and news.gmane.org, which archives several mailing lists (including all of the Wikipedia lists). If you really don't want to have the lists show up on Google, just edit robots.txt and you're done --LittleDan
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