--- James Rosenzweig jwrosenzweig@yahoo.com wrote:
Chris, I understand and respect your position.
Ok.
I think, however, it is not sufficiently clear that Sl's post here was the result of the four months of difficulty many of us have had in working with WHEELER.
Indeed, it was not. The poster should have made that clearer.
He has made frequent Anti-Semitic remarks, as well as being blatantly rude to a number of editors (questioning their competence, their belief in God at one point, etc.).
Not illegal is it? It's called freedom of speech. You should try it sometime.
Suggesting a ban isn't in violation with wikilove at this point, I think. I, Kim Bruning, Sl, Sam Spade, and numerous other editors have done our best to encourage WHEELER to do good here, and have attempted to correct him when he has abused our good faith.
Obviously your efforts, while well-intended, have failed. Again, whose fault?
Enough is enough. That's my opinion.
Being frustrated with a situation is a personal emotion, and is rarely effective in logical discourse.
Certainly a call for a ban here isn't going to get results -- that's an AC measure.
Yes. That was one of my points.
But I think Sl is posting here because those of us who have tried to work with WHEELER are frustrated to the point of giving up.
Again, that's their fault. They should apply their talents where they are effective, and leave the rest alone.
I hope you, Chris, will begin to work on compromise and wikilove with WHEELER -- if you are successful, you're a better man than I am.
Better is POV.
And it may be that you will discover that the quoted comment isn't one misinterpretation by SL of a researched fact of WHEELER's, but rather it is the tip of an iceberg of bigotry and intolerance.
Then it sould have been stated as such. Again, calling on a ban for one infraction without mentioning the sum of the infractions is not very good communication.
I wish you luck in your work with him.
Never said I was going to. Got other fish to fry.
Sorry for the americanism in the expression to the international readers.
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