On 4/15/07, Earle Martin wikipedia@downlode.org wrote:
On 15/04/07, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
2)Results in a large group of admins who don't really know their way around policy/process.
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I've seen a lot of this project's policy and process. That doesn't necessarily mean I'd get involved with all of it should I become an admin.
Don't need to be involved in all of it.
the effect of this is that when they do get involved they tend to cause trouble with the hyper-actives and thus reduce their work rate.
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See [[WP:AN]] and [[WP:AN/I]]'s archives.
Everyone has to learn the ropes. That's not a disruptive process; it's a natural part of a growing community. If the system as it exists can't cope with a higher influx of administrators, then new procedures for training need to be implemented. Anyway, the more users that become admins, the greater the chance that you will find more "hyper-actives" who will offset this dubious effect of new admins.
People learning the ropes can be dealt with. It is the people learning then not realising they have forgotten or that things have changed that cause issues.
What has this to do with quiet admins being harmful to the project?
If you had a large body of fairly active admins such issues would be less likely to arise.
Are you trying to imply that factions would develop in the admin community based on how much work people do? Sorry, but I think that's ridiculous.
So you are suggesting that there will be no split between those with actual practical experience and those who do not? That goes against almost the entire history of human activities.
5)security risk (admin accounts getting hacked) without the gain.
This is conjecture and scaremongering.
No basic maths.
Chance of admin password being acquired for any given admin is X. Now we have no reason to think that low activity admins have more secure passwords than active admins. So we will assume that the mean value of X will remain constant regardless of the number of admins.
So the chance of an admin password being acquired = mean x*number of admins.
What is this need to "step up [one's] admin action rate"? Why can't our admins continue what they're doing? If we end up with some admins who are all-out gung-ho types and a bunch of slow admins... we still end up with more admins. All of whom are doing /something/. This is not a problem.
We can't promote at a high enough rate to deal with bumps in need for admin actions. the only way to meet these is for admins to become more active. fairly active admins would appear to be the best candidates for increase action rate.