Anthere wrote:
--- Julie Kemp juleskemp@yahoo.com wrote:
Jens said:
But I can't understand why this
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3A843-870_Europe.jpg
is fair use. The map has been created for an encyclopedia or an history textbook. If this is fair use, is there any picture we may not use?
I reply --
This is actually interesting -- when DW (or Elliot) put this up many months ago, I asked for a reference. I claimed then that this map was likely not in fair use. My reasoning was as follows: When I was finishing my thesis in 2000, I was desperate for maps. I found this map, along with a couple others that this person put up, at the UW library. I didn't have time to write for permission, and checked the copyright with the librarians, who said I could only use it under fair use if I altered the image dramatically, because it was still under copyright. Unfortunately, I can't tell you the source -- I had a couple maps copied, traced the parts I needed (the coastlines and rivers) by hand, scanned them, and labeled them as necessary. Anyway, I think we shouldn't use any images unless we can definitively say where they're from -- from what the librarian at my present college says, one still has to credit image sources for fair use, or it isn't fair use.
Julie
Agreed. Wikipedia should have its own mapping system. Where I could put ecoregions too :-)
Which could be discussed at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediatlas
Just, so people know, [[Bruce Perens]] has a complete street map of the United States on his ftp server (ftp://ftp.perens.com/pub/US-map/tiger2k), which is also available from the US Census site here (http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tiger2k/). AFAIR, it's not covered by copyright, having been created by the US Government, though I can look for the original announcement if required. So, no help for Europe, but could be useful for someone else.