On 2/3/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I think the CVU and semi-protection are great. I can't stand reverting vandalism (could anything be more tedious than cleaning up after annoying teenagers?), but I hate to see articles I've worked on vandalised too.
If the CVU get off on cleaning it up and actually do something about it, great!
If semi-protection stops vandalism happening in the first place, great!
Process schmrocess.
Steve
On 2/3/06, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/3/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Wikipedia's still great, I love it, but really. The Wikipedia Counter Vandalism Unit?
Let's just strap on the jackboots and start humming Beethoven's 5th.
Silly, silly me, thinking the Wikipedia Militia was bad. They've even got their own freaking logo! Which, if I'm not mistaken, is a gross copyright vio.
Sure but we tend not to worry about that as long as it stays within wikimedia projects. Otherwise there are rather a lot of othr images that need to go.
"Semi-protection" is also something that bothers me no end. As does the concept of needing to "semi-protect" talk pages.
Wikipedia doesn't need protection. It needs participation. It's not a piece of china, folks.
Ummm are you going to sit there refreshing your talk page once a second to catch all the vandalism at GWB?
Neither is it some kind of dystopian arcology that needs paramilitary posses threatening people around every corner.
<crazy old guy rant>There's TOO MUCH PROCESS going on in articles these days. Too many damn boxes!</rant>
[[WP:CVU]] are hadly process heavy. More and better vandles require better tactics to deal with them. Nothing stopping you doing RC patrol the old fashioned way.
-- geni _______________________________________________
Hear, hear.
We need to improve our methods of countering vandalism. If the Counter Vandalism Unit does this, more power to their arms. The help desk receives plenty of complaints about vandalism every day which I and other people respond too.
With regards to semi-protection, we need to rethink our rules about limiting the semi-protection of feature articles to 15 minutes. The feature article for Thursday was being vandalised every couple of minutes by a different new user name but with the same item featuring plenty of pictures of vaginas and penises.
We had at least three complaints on the help desk and probably plenty more people turned off by it. We should allow the feature article to be semi-protected for 24 hours if need be.
Having a feature article is a reward for the hard work of editors in researching and writing a quality article. Their moment in the sun shouldn't be spoiled by mindless vandalism. This would allow experienced editors to continue to improve the article but would stop vandals from giving visitors a bad impression of Wikipedia.
Regards
Keith Old
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