on 9/13/07 9:19 AM, Christiano Moreschi at moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
From: Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] What's going on? - Inquiry 2 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:08:59 -0400
on 9/13/07 8:54 AM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/09/2007, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
on 9/13/07 6:14 AM, Anirudh at anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow, on Wikipedia, people tend to treat other users even worse, as if they
never
profess any kind of feelings like humans do. I am guilty of this, most
of us
are.
And do we accept this as a given? Do we excuse it by saying, "that's
the way
things are & always will be". And, as someone said, "that's the nature
of a
mailing list". Or, do we see it for the primitive, dehumanizing
behavior
that it is - and do something about it?
Photos on user pages? If you know what someone looks like, they seem more like a real person and less like some bits in a database. Obviously, some people would not want their picture on their user page, but for those that do, it might help. And improving relations between those might help improve relations with the others too.
This would be a step in the right direction, Thomas. However, I still place the responsibility for change on the abuser. Is a blind person more abusive to someone simply because they can't see them?
Marc
I think this is a little touchy feel. The defining quality of humanity is reason. The extent to which some of our nationalists reject rationality is...depressing. I have little problems with spades being called spades, and trolls being labelled just that. In my rather crude way I don't see why those who mess up Wikipedia should not get what they merit.
Moreschi,
Reason is the defining quality of a human being. The defining quality of humanity is empathy.
And what's wrong with "touchy feel" :-). Seriously, you have described two of our greatest senses.
Also, can't you make your arguments without calling someone names?
Marc