On 5/11/07, Ken Arromdee arromdee@rahul.net wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007, David Gerard wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tony_Sidaway
"This adminstrator has subverted the intent of VfD on numerous occasions." i.e., he didn't just count votes.
While administrators are not supposed to count votes, neither are they supposed to discount them unnecessarily. It's possible that the correct result should be to keep the article even though counting the votes suggests otherwise. After all, it isn't supposed to be a vote count; sometimes the correct result doesn't match the vote count. But it's much less plausible when it's constantly being done by the same admin. While not following a vote count is expected some of the time, someone who *consistently* fails to follow a vote count is doing something wrong. And some of the examples seem rather egregious even as single examples; [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of names for the human penis]] had 14 votes, only one of which was "keep". He closed it as "no consensus". The only way in which that had no consensus was that people wanted to get rid of it and couldn't reach consensus on exactly what way to get rid of it.
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When I'm closing an AfD, I will look at the number of editors who advocate a given position as -one- factor, and I believe that is important in evaluating consensus. But it's not the only factor. If there are a ton of ILIKEIT/IDONTLIKEIT/OTHERCRAPEXISTS/HAVENTHEARDOFIT/GOOGLETEST/etc. arguments, I'll probably give those significantly less weight than the arguments from those who show they actually did some looking into it.