I discerned as much. The point is, the faction Fred is fearful of did not exist, until ArbCom railroaded some editors in response to the demands of an existing faction. The remedy to an imaginary problem only created the problem. Now the faction cries out for leadership. Pretending ideas don't exist or can be dealt with by censorship solves nothing.
nobs
On 1/12/06, Peter Mackay peter.mackay@bigpond.com wrote:
From: wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Smith
Well Fred has successfully confused me once again. No less than 5 times he's declared users did not "act in concert", yet refused three motions to provide a Finding of Fact. Oddly now, the very faction Fred expresses fear of has been created in response to the errors the ArbCom made in handling the case. And this phenomenea is discussed in the Laird Wilcox Report, the basis of the verifiable citations the ArbCom attributed to Nobs as "personal attacks".
Nobs, mate.
I gave up hoping for justice or fairness from the wikijudiciary a while back.
The fact is, if you do a lot of work for WP, you can be excused ANYTHING, even if there's a pile of hard evidence against you. And the longer you've been around the more you can get away with, mainly because you've got an established party of supporters to back you up and who will be offended if a decision goes against you.
Don't think that this place is subject to the same sort of standards you expect in a court of law or even the due process of a government body. It's just a website, and the people running the show are all busy doing other stuff and while they are happy to assume the rank and power of their position, their top priority isn't listening to you point out their shortcomings, it's getting an encyclopaedia built.
Accept that from your point of view the system is crooked and rigged and get on with it. Complaining about it only gets everyone offside.
As I discovered.
Peter (Skyring)
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