On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:20:45 +0000, Zoney zoney.ie@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:19:36 +0000, Zoney zoney.ie@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:10:52 -0000 (GMT), Tony Sidaway minorityreport@bluebottle.com wrote:
Zoney said:
Nope. I will not accept anyone's right to express Nazi views.
Wikipedia is probably the wrong place for you. We don't do advocacy but we do give expression to all significant views.>
Seemingly though, you find it unacceptable for me to have the view that some views are unacceptable. Evidently there are limits to what views even you can accept.
Is this a plural "you"? I think you will find that your view can also be expressed, but not advocated on Wikipedia. We adopt the neutral point of view here.
No we don't give expression to all significant views. We write about them - but we don't attempt to get the reader to emphasise with them.
That should read "empathise" of course.
No, we _do_ give expression of all significant views -- or at least that is the objective, inasmuch as we give expression to any view. Of course we don't attempt to get the reader to empathize with _any_ POV. That is contrary to NPOV.
There is a distinct difference between allowing a Neo-Nazi to contribute, and allowing any article to have a Neo-Nazi POV.
As I see it, the best possible "weapon" to use against any extreme POV on Wikipedia is to let people who support that POV contribute, hold them to the rules, and beat their POV to a pulp with the well-documented facts.
Sometimes we may actually find ourselves ceding a point where the documented facts support their view. How is that bad?
-Rich Holton
en.wikipedia:User:Rholton