--- Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
Dont make this personal.
Fair enough. It wasn't really called for, was it? Bit childish of me, there.
I much appreciate that! Let us you and I henceforth agree to not be dicks, either by dickishness itself or by accusal thereof.
What Cobb was alluding to --- always and only --- is his inability to get all fancruft deleted
immediately.
Ah. Well thats... practical.
I guess I now would be a good time for me to make note of some 'Pediacruft (self-refs), wikicruft (references to wiki tknlgy), and Jimbocruft (fans apparently). Nah, I wont mention it.
Fair enough.
We have to come up with a better term for "newbie indoctrination" though.
What you see as "making an argument weak" I see as trying not to get those you're trying to convince off-side.
Yeah, I can see that. But that doesnt really work when dealing with POV pushers. If the issue is adherence to POV, my addition of [[Category:Anti-French people]] for example should be rightly seen as POINT and not as POV.
Naturally someone can report me to the Arbcom for POINT, and get me deadminned or something like that without much consideration of NPOV. If we really need to 'kick out bad writers', what good does it do when not just the Arbcom, but the whole community fails to understand or apply some basic NPOV?
I agree what you said in another email that "the Trifecta" is simple and therefore effective for newbies. But what we have yet to do IMHO is to elaborate more on NPOV as our most elevated, trancendent and fundamental core doctrine, by way of drills, practices, examples, and organized religion-style propaganda.
-Stevertigo PS: I could just go ahead and edit-integrate the policy pages though myself but Im lazy.
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