On 4/24/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/23/06, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/23/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
A brief block is not the end of the world. If it drags on for a lengthy period then it's something else. And yes, the first admin executed their best judgement when making the block; that's what admins are supposed to do. If a second admin disagrees with that judgement, then they need to take it up with the first admin, rather than initiate a wheel war with them.
Jay.
Pulling a block is not initiateing a wheel war.
Actually, it is, by definition.
No. I have done something to try and fix something. They have decided to take responcibilty for the problem and try an different fix
If I initiated a wheel war every time someone pulled one of my blocks we wouldn't be haveing this conversation now.
If someone pulled one of your blocks, then the wheel war has already started. How you respond, of course, is up to you.
No. The first "wheel war" to recive wide attention would be the one involeing trying to inforce a 3RR block on an admin. There is a world of difference between that and someone pulling a 3RR block because someone contacted them by email. In any case you have just accused some fairly widely respect members of the old school admins of "wheel waring".
Allowing the revsal of admin actions is just a logical extension of [[WP:OWN]].
WP:OWN is about articles, not actions. This is not a "logical extension". A more logical extension would have to do with not reverting.
No. You do not own articles. You do not own blocks . You do not own page protections. You do not own deletions. You do not own your f****** Mediawiki namespace edits. You're a wikipedia admin. Your ego can go hang and it is about time you started wearing toecaps.
Most revsals of admin actions don't result in any problems thus it requires less rescources to do whatever and then deal with any screaming afterwards.
Yes, and reverting someone using the admin revert button also requires less resources, and you can deal with any screaming afterwards.
Jay.
Rollback does not give you a comment box. Unprotection and unblock does. -- geni