on 3/25/07 12:11 PM, Seth Finkelstein at sethf@sethf.com wrote:
Jimmy Wales Oh, he is talking about how I manipulate and control people in the cult through an environment of... well, it isn't intimidation and fear I think we all agree... it's manipulation and control through... uh... being mostly friendly and trying to see the best in everyone, ...
"It's called a confidence game. Why? Because you give me your confidence? No. Because I give you mine." -- _House Of Cards_
[This quote is meant to illustrate manipulation via positive versus negative emotion, not to say Wikipedia is _per se_ a confidence game.] [This is why this discussion can be overly tedious, every major point has to be carefully protected against tendentious reading]
Strawman #1 in this discussion, repeated several times now:
- Assume all cults work only by hate and fear
- Assume Wikipedia is filled only with love and happiness
[Bang! Pow! Down goes the strawman!] 3) How silly it is for anyone to speak of the good Wikipedia like the bad cults
I guess I came late to the party, or haven't been paying attention, or - something. What is you basic beef, Seth?
Marc Riddell