On 29/06/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On 6/28/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On 6/28/07, Rob gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
They provide raw data, not information or context. By repeatedly citing the google search stats, you are (I assume) trying to justify the existence of a Brian Peppers article on the grounds that he is a noteworthy internet meme, so what is needed are reliable sources establishing that he is in fact a noteworthy internet meme, not sources that merely establish his existence as a person or a criminal sex offender.
No, I've never said anything about being an internet meme. I frankly don't even know what the term means.
I looked into it a bit more, mostly in the [[meme]] article, and while you could probably legitimately call just about anything an internet meme, I'd more see something like "O RLY" or "first post" or whatever the term is for fowarding stupid emails to everyone in your address book is, as an internet meme. I wouldn't really consider Brian Peppers to be a meme, though like I said you could probably legitimately argue for calling just about anything an internet meme.
Of course, [[Category:Internet memes]] seems to have a lot of articles that don't seem to be much of internet memes either. I guess the meme of calling things an internet meme has evolved into uselessness, kind of like the meme of calling people trolls.
I get your point that newspeak is silly. Linguistically, language probably evolves much faster than good articles. i use the word meme to describe a thing or person that becomes the most talked about thing in the workplace or school one week and disappears the next. it is a thing of shared common ground at the water pump or smoke room. it wasn't like our grandparents sharing important news about a pogrom or the death of somebody important at the village pump. Its a talking point that we can live without, but if you haven't seen it you might google it and shock horror you see Brian Peppers. Want to shock somebody else show them brian peppers. That is a meme.
Brian Peppers is perhaps the lowest that any editor can go on. It is everything that wikipedia is not. As I said we echo the craziest things from a new japanese playing card game and list every character down to their waist size to news of a cabinet reshuffle before its hit the lunchtime news. We are not a pen and paper encyclopedia and we have the ability to echo sourced information long before other have to shift through google "priority" hits, but when things are nasty, irrelevent or just downright shocking internet memes - I say don't go there.