David Gerard wrote:
On 14/11/2007, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
And contributions to policy debate can be done through this list. I note that most of the people we're talking about, when they've come here, have ended up being kicked from here as well. This probably tells us something about their ability to contribute constructively.
Not most, actually - and hardly anyone actually gets kicked, mostly they get put on moderation. And their stuff still gets through if it's not for whatever social failure caused them to be put on moderation. This is pretty much the only Wikipedia communications channel banned users are actually allowed on. Which probably doesn't do much for the tone of the list, but oh well.
Many banned users who come here tend to behave more nicely than the people who banned them. Maybe it's because they have a point to prove with that behaviour, but an unjustly banned person would also show nice behaviour. Those of us who do not make a habit of following on-wiki banning debates are more prone to take what is said here at face value. Their opponents come across as dedicated rights-fighters who believe they can do no wrong and are thereby deserving of unquestioned trust. Instead they leave the impression that they are far more extreme than the people they are banning. They appear as prosecuting attorney who are out to prove their case at all costs.
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