On 2/28/07, Sage Ross sage.ross@yale.edu wrote:
This isn't as ridiculous an idea as it seemed (to me) at first glance. Maybe not a month, but a few days or a week where the process was halted and a discussion about AfD took place instead might at least move the community, and particularly the AfD regulars, closer to consensus on what the proper purpose and methods of the deletion process should be.
Nothing new is likely to be said, but at least it will make a larger proportion of !voters aware of a larger proportion of the viewpoints. And probably get some users to put some more thought into their own positions.
-Sage
People will wait it out. And during that period will likely respond by shoving more borderline stuff into CSD. Or in the case of admins outright out of process deletion.
Neither of these two is a good outcome.
Attacking the AFD regulars or irregulars head on wont work. They will react by viewing you as enemy and will likely oppose any reforms by default. This is basic wikipedia politics.
Deletion process has been talked about for years. So far the outcomes are:
prod ---> only works where the original creator doesn't dispute.
expand csd ---> I tend to feel we have reached the limit on that one we are already asking for too much judgement.
Limit article creation ---> Adding a few extra days will have limited effect. Preventing the creation of orphans might (generally most of AFD and CSD are orphans) but that is hard to do without a software change and may be a bit harsh.
Other than that the various suggestions have involved little more than tinkering. Ultimately the only way we have of dealing with the hard cases is to sit down and have a !vote.