On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
2009/1/12 geni geniice@gmail.com:
I've just run across this article, which might be of use in helping those who work on the eternal problem of determining whether or not a given 20th-century work is in copyright in the US.
We don't use the copyright not renewed clause stuff and commons' general support for Must be PD in the country of origin as well as the US means we mostly dodge the issue.
I'm not so sure that we don't use it - I can't cite chapter and verse, but I've certainly seen it invoked here and there, usually with good-faith due diligence to find renewals.
Sometimes it seems like what we need is a quasi-intelligent "PD-old" template - you plug in the known variables, date created and date published and author and country and so on, and it spits out "is therefore public domain because X and Y, under provision Z". Be horrific to maintain, though.
We have fairly complex templates similar to that, though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-EU-no_author_disclosure
There was, a long time ago, a big debate about some images such as:
"File:Max-Planck-und-Albert-Einstein.jpg"
There is a long history here, but none of it seems to have mattered once it reached Commons. There seems to have been no attempt in the Commons deletion debate to look at the previous discussions or anything.
* 18:04, 1 August 2007 Nv8200p (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "File:Max-Planck-und-Albert-Einstein.jpg" (Remove image per WP:IFD) (restore) * 00:45, 7 August 2007 Xoloz (Talk | contribs | block) restored "File:Max-Planck-und-Albert-Einstein.jpg" (11 revision(s) and 1 file(s) restored: Restored by DRV, to be relisted at IfD at editorial option) * 03:50, 23 November 2007 Jennavecia (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "File:Max-Planck-und-Albert-Einstein.jpg" (Speedy deleted per (CSD i8), was an image available as a bit-for-bit identical copy on the Wikimedia Commons. using TW) (restore)
The debates at the time on en-Wikipedia were:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_Ju... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_August_2
But a year later we have this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Max-Planck...
Anyone here know what should be happening with this image?
Carcharoth