On 0, quiddity blanketfort@gmail.com scribbled:
I've read through these 2 threads again, and I think Durin's initial post (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-July/077358.html) and George Herbert's reply (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-July/077966.html) are excellent summations of the issue.
(I'm a reductionist by nature, so, to synopsize even further...) This seems to be a fundamental disagreement between 2 philosophies: *The "open-content-first" folks (idealists), and the immediatists (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Immediatism) and *The "encyclopedia-first" folks (utilitarians?), and the eventualists (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism)
Does that sound about right?
Quiddity
Not quite. There are some independent axes I think here; for example, 'encyclopedia-first'/'free-content-first' is independent of eventualism/immediatism since you can construct an eventualist argument for both getting rid of and keeping free content (ex. "There's no need to delete that fair use photo of the subject; I'm sure someone will come along eventually with a Free picture we can replace it with.")
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