On 3/1/07, Gwern Branwen gwern0@gmail.com wrote:
<C2F697EE-9AF5-4917-A376-51E9C43F8DFA@prwatch.org> <45E765B8.5050601@earthlink.net> <99c65f730703011756x711c74b5hf6835868850fd482@mail.gmail.com> <38a7bf7c0703011828r2452ff82xf20143d55ef9520b@mail.gmail.com> <c52819d30703011830x4c0782d8i2aed75ac219fed6e@mail.gmail.com> <38a7bf7c0703011834x28ee9bc6pfb914a3c444b94a7@mail.gmail.com> <52a8cf060703011842s2dca0df1qa405e56dda90650@mail.gmail.com>Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:33:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: 52a8cf060703011842s2dca0df1qa405e56dda90650@mail.gmail.com (Rob Smith's message of "Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:42:58 -0700") Message-ID: 86y7mgm9xj.fsf@elan.rh.rit.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed --text follows this line-- "Rob Smith" nobs03@gmail.com writes:
On 3/1/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/1/07, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkbrad@gmail.com
wrote:
anything you do related to Wikipedia may now get viewed by a potentially hostile press and outside
community.it's dinged us somewhat in the
press, based on the blogosphere at least.
Actually this matter has been brewing for some time. Amazing it
took this
long to bring attention to it.
True. It could've been discovered as far back as 7 January, if I may recount the timeline of events. It was 7 February that Essjay posted this: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Essjay&oldid=66549
On an interesting side note, it apparently wasn't until 21 January that anyone noticed - that was when an anon user brought it up on [[User talk:Essjay]] < http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Essjay&oldid=1021610...
.
Given the anonymity, the name provided as a sig, and the linked website, I think we can conclude it was in fact Daniel Brandt who first noticed it http://www.whois-search.com/whois/216.60.71.100%20.
It is also interesting to note that Essjay never replied as [[User:Shanel]] quite quickly reverted it. (A lapse of judgement? I suppose so, in the same way Yanksox had a lapse of judgement deleting [[Daniel Brandt]]).
I'm not so certain of that; Yanksox registered an account with WR 23 Feb 2007 9:08am http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showuser=1014
where he presumably read the series "Navigating flame wars of the Daniel Brandt controversy" (two hours is ample time) and promptly deleted the Brandt page on 23 Feb 2007 12:53pm. Ken Myers, author of *Wikimmunity: Fitting the Communications Decency Act to Wikipedia* registered an account a day earlier 22 Feb 2007 and was active on that board for several hours at the same time prior as well.
21st Feb 2007, 11:10pm
Yanksox deletes Daniel Brandt
Wed 21st Feb 2007, 4:10pm Ken Myers registers an account