On Nov 27, 2007 1:01 PM, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Alec Conroy wrote:
The cyberstalking list, problematic though it is, isn't as enigmatic as the investigations list. The investigations list was clearly formed just for the purpose of gathering evidence to support bans. The cyberstalking list might have a claim to being "support-group-esque", but the investigations list, by its name, summary, and the content of its messages, certainly appears to be a place designed to influence on-wiki actions.
The cyberstalking list is in no way problematic.
I know nothing about any "investigations list" and can't comment.
Isn't this the list about which Guy said "Jimbo was happy to own it, in fact, but I probably have more time." Because, that's the list I was talking about when I said that Guy runs one of them.
But in general, a list for investigations does not strike me as particularly problematic at all. It could be a bad thing, depending on what is meant, but the name itself does not automatically mean badness.
A good investigations list would be a quiet place where users could collect information and ask questions.
"Say, this person looks like a sockpuppet..."
"No, not really, check this out..."
"Oh, ok."
Nothing wrong with that, and in fact we need more of it. (IRC serves this function quite usefully in many cases.)
Even if so, such a list should definitely not be run on Wikia's servers, its existence should not be secret, its membership should be determined in a fair and open process, and it should not reveal private information unless all of its members have been cleared to receive such information.