Yes, unfortunately, the editor who gets reverted tends not to like it very much, and generally regards it as the first step in a personally intended campaign against his honor, and sometimes against his ethnicity, religion and politics as well. The more experienced the person is at Wikipedia, the better they know how to bite. The reaction I received as a newbie taught me to stay away from any subject that I really cared about. I want to edit cooperatively, but I remember such occurrences as rare highlights. Even in a place where I've just wandered in to improve things, my first reaction to an opposing edit is a desire for revenge.
I exaggerate, but only slightly.
On 6/21/07, Silas Snider swsnider@gmail.com wrote:
Except... WP:BOLD has been interpreted to apply to such actions as deletion, which are not so easily reversed (the phrase 'wheel-warring' starts occurring if you just hit 'revert').
Sincerely, Silas Snider
On 6/21/07, Skander - shinywater@gmail.com wrote:
MediaWiki has this nice thing called a "revert button", which makes boldness not harmful in any way. How else do you want to keep Wikipedia's open spirit and anti-elitism? The power of wiki's is that anyone can edit anything and, most importantly, can revert anything, so boldness should be encouraged. If something is done against consensus "per WP:BOLD", who cares, revert it and discuss. WP:BRD.
-Salaskan
2007/6/21, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com:
As for BOLD, I have never seen it cited for good ends; most good editing doesn't need it. It is usually used as the attempted justification for edits against the consensus. Personally I'd rather remove it from the guidelines altogether, but it is referred to so many times that perhaps it should be written in a way that would make it less likely to be misused. I see there's an active discussion there.
On 6/18/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/06/07, Eagle 101 eagle.wikien.l@gmail.com wrote:
Ignore all Rules is common sense written into policy. The concept
behind it
(at least to me) is that if ignoring the rules help you improve the encyclopaedia (and that is your intent when you ignored the rules),
there is
a decent chance that you are doing something right, even if it does
not meet
our policy XYZ, section 3, subsection c. How it is to be used is
another
matter, when ignoring the rules you probably have a decent rational
behind
why doing so improves the encyclopaedia, otherwise its hard to justify should someone ask. Merely shouting IAR when you don't like a
particular
rule is not useful. But if you ignore the rules and the net benefit is
to
the encyclopaedia (yes that thing we are trying to build ya know ;) )
then
its likely a useful action (edit whatever). Ignore all rules is intended to be hard to pin down, to avoid
codifying how
to ignore all rules ;).
Let me pimp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:PRO once more.
- d.
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