On 02/04/2008, Peter Ansell ansell.peter@gmail.com wrote:
Also, just for interest sake, why was the following edit made [1] ... when it is clear that it is allowed previously anyway. In the future will people be told that Wikipedia is licensed under "version 2.2 or later" or "1.3 or later" when it is clear some contributions are inevitably available under 1.1 and it should be clear that it is 1.1 or later. Using "or later" or unilaterally changing the base version doesn't invalidate ones right to interpret the prior versions as binding on text contributed under them. (Interestingly that change was made after the Bomis collection copyright notice was removed so it is unclear who has the copyright on the collection in order to possibly delegitimise the use of 1.1 to interpret text contributed pre that date, and text modified post that date)
Remember, Wikipedia is a user of the content just like anyone else is. It can use the content under any license it's been released under. The content which was released early on when we used 1.1 can be used under 1.1 or 1.2, Wikipedia chooses to use it under 1.2. That doesn't stop other people using it under 1.1 if they want to (they may have difficultly working out what content is available under that version, but that's not Wikipedia's problem [at least, not legally speaking]).
Really should include all of the relevant licenses instead of just the current one implying that everything is in the current one.
I like the approach of a number of open source projects who form foundations to own the copyright to contributed material, as they avoid these thorny issues with relicensing past works.
Peter
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Copyrights&diff=1080...
On 02/04/2008, Philip Sandifer snowspinner@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Peter Ansell wrote:
'All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License' at the bottom of every page
See Section 4.K on the wikipedia hosted page [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_Li...
I was never shown the "no invariant sections" statement when I contributed my past entries, and to change the license would be to relicence everyones contributions...
It is entirely logical that if someone is contributing as part of an academic grant that they should be able to acknolwedge that.
Not at present an issue, as nobody added invariant sections or acknowledgements previously. Thus there are no previous contributions with invariant sections to be irritated about. Furthermore, the terms do not forbid the creation of derivative works with invariant sections
- that is, we are not creating a new license called "GFDL Without
Invariant Sections." We are saying "By hitting the submit button you are saying that the text in this window is GFDL and has no invariant sections."
-Phil
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