On Dec 9, 2007 5:37 PM, private musings thepmaccount@gmail.com wrote:
To my mind, this dialog has become rather unfortunately overly polarised. It's probably not as hard as we think to find common ground, which would certainly be for the good.
My main concern in all this (which I think is echoed elsewhere clearly and loudly) is that people have been taking 'on-wiki' actions without the appropriate level of 'on-wiki' discussion. I think we would all agree that a group (say 4 or 5) of 'senior' editors forming opinions privately, and then each taking action in the matter at hand at the very least is behaviour which probably requires great care to avoid becoming problematic.
Why do you keep repeating these things as if they're facts? Do you think it helps the tenor of the conversation to continually post unproven (and, in fact, repudiated) allegations, and then claim that they represent a "problematic" issue about which "great care" must be taken?
Here's what would help the tenor of discussions on the list; stop speculating, and then insisting the sky is falling based on that speculation.
If you are genuinely incredulous, I'd recommend the advice given previously - take a walk, calm down,
People who have no idea what others are talking don't need to "calm down"; mystification does not imply a lack of calmness, and it's very odd you would suggest they are the same thing, or inevitably accompany each other.