On 21/02/2008, The Mangoe the.mangoe@gmail.com wrote:
As long as the two sacred principles of "No pictures!" and "Not censored!" stand in rigid opposition to each other, the conflict will continue. The "show" solution (with an appropriate note) or even putting all the images on the "depictions" page (again, with a prominent note) seem like reasonable solutions.
Sure if you tend towards the pro censorship position.
If this is a "slippery slope", it's because "not censored!" is often interpreted to mean "dare to be offensive". It is taken to be a highly POV-pushing statement about how public discourse is to be conducted. In the present case it represents a statement of defiance against "fundamentalist" Islam; more generally, it can be taken, with some justification, as the adoption of a particular liberal, secular, Western public morality. This is not the only sign of this: we also tolerate POV-dubious advocacy projects such as LBGT and animal rights, but I think it would be very hard for there to be a (say) Wikiproject Fundamentalism, except as a sort of authorized hatchet workplace.
WikiProject Catholicism appears to get by.
I'm not saying that I want to step up to that really huge issue, because I simply don't have the stamina for it. I am saying that in the instant case, I think we can make a reasonable concession and stick to it.
You admit it is a concession then? Surely we are thus forced to reject your position since we are making a concession to pro-censorship groups and wikipedia is not censored.