On 5/9/07, Jeff Raymond jeff.raymond@internationalhouseofbacon.com wrote:
doc wrote:
Yeah, but Jeff we have tens of thousands of pathetic articles marked for cleanup at it stands - more than we can possibly cope with. So why are you so keen to to keep more spammy stubs that /could/ be cleaned up?
Because there's an unfortunate scarlet letter of sorts that gets attached to previously-deleted material, and there's a vocal sect of editors who work very hard to make sure that, if they still don't like the article, it'll stay away.
Furthermore, the cleanup issue, while necessary, is often overblown. Much of it is simple formatting issues that could be dealt with on an easier basis, some are citation issues for things that are completely uncontroversial and non-troublesome. Many are simply waiting for the right editors to come along and do the dirty work, and we get closer to that as our popularity grows.
This entire mentality feeds into the next point...
If people want to clean up spam, we got stacks of it. The day backlogs clear is the day I'll begin to wonder if we could tweek the deletion processes to keep a little more 'spam with hypothetical potential'. Until then - keep deleting crud.
...that when you continue to arbitrarily delete "crud," (whatever crud is) what's the incentive to clean up what's there? We've already alienated a large, potentially invaluable, group of possible editors because it was decided that most webcomic articles fall into this "crud" label. What next? How can we complain about the condition on one end when we do nothing to foster it on the other?
-Jeff
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From what I saw, most of those the webcomic articles -were- crud, and
that includes many that got kept. Most of them were trivially, if at all, mentioned in any secondary reliable sources, they were full of original research (effectively unfixable, due to that lack of secondary sources), and the main arguments for keeping were ILIKEIT from fans. If some webcomic is genuinely going to be of long-lasting, truly encyclopedic value, it'll get covered by secondary sources, and we can have an article. Until then, we don't need articles about passing web fads.