Doc, you've come here looking for opposes, simple as that. It was obvious by your tone that you were ABF and wanted people to pop along so you could get your own way. We weren't pulling a fast one in the slightest, we advertised it on the admin noticeboard,VP, the centralised discussion template - now I've done a watchlist notice just to make sure everyone see's it. Your ascertation that we were trying to pull a fast one is completely false and has no merit whatsoever - I said it on your talk page, running to the mailing list because you don't get your own way is quite frankly sad.
Ryan
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:08:05 +0000 From: doc.wikipedia@ntlworld.com To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A six-day roll-back poll?
NavouWiki wrote:
Doc,
That was really off the mark. Who is trying to pull a fast one? There are some very good contributors, so consider their good faith.
Merc
Sorry, I had a long IRC conversation with them and stressed my strong objections to the short length and Christmas timing of the poll. I stated that it felt manipulative, and pressed for a longer time period. They essentially saw my attempts to extend it as being attempts to wreck it. They were more interested in pressing the thing home, than waiting till people returned from their holidays to give their opinions. My good faith assuming was approaching exhaustion at that point (but still in with a shout).
Given the low level of involvement at that point (about 60 people in 5 of the 7 days they were allowing), I also suggested that THEY use the official mailing list to raise the profile of the discussion. Again I was rebuffed and told that engaging with the people who read the mailing list was quite pointless.
What finished off my assuming good faith was their reaction to my posting here. When they declined to do so, I posted here myself last night pointing people to the debate, and expressing my concerns over its timing - I did NOT give my view of the proposal itself. (And I told them I was intending on doing this.) I'd say my advertising was successful, as there's been dozens of new contributions on *both sides* of the debate in the last hours. However, I have been accused of canvasing, "inappropriate and deceptive" behaviour and various other personal attacks.
Where is their assumption of my good faith? Their overreaction to me publicising this rather serves to confirm my suspicion that this was an attempt to game the system.
Doc
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