On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Samuel Kleinmeta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Well, there is something in the original proposal that makes sense to me -- devoting specific attention to long-term facilitation of discussion and resolution of difficult issues. There is something about wiki-time (to borrow a term) that discourages measured discussion over time - if you miss the flashpoint discussion that sets a precedent, people may have moved on and you'll have to restart the original interest again.
Hm. Yeah, to summarise your concept and mine in the most plain and non-controversial terms possible - I'm looking at it simply as a way of looking at DR on en.wiki in a new dimension.
Yes, the technology is forty years old.. but it still apparently suffices for about a hundred other projects and project aspects. Yes, its not ideal to separate discussions or to move on-wiki matters to the mailing list... but what is ideal, and what works for wikien-l and others could at least work for us.
I think the list-vs-wiki distinction is a red herring -- I'd like to see list-to-wiki synchronization so that we never have to have that discussion again -- so to keep things simple, let's imagine what this would look like on-wiki.
I actually just filed a bug to start use markup conversion on [[wiki link]]s in wikien posts. Should work at least on the web archives, and perhaps anyone who gets the HTML version. Still sort of like the google waves idea - though it does look a bit overkill for us here.
Sam had a good idea in this direction : [[Wikipedia:Community Facilitation]] . It's about something more specific than dispute resolution in general, but may be a useful part of what you have in mind, steve. And the idea would be both to discuss [potentially long-term] facilitation, help people get better at it, and practice it in the context of specific issues.
I like it already, and I haven't even looked at it yet.
-Stevertigo