There are few active people here who have not made that mistake, at least once or twice; the only way to have no errors is to have no encyclopedia.
What we are out to do is produce the most accurate encyclopedia that can be produced by our methods--and it is already much more accurate than anyone would have suspected beforehand, knowing the chaotic way in which it was to be edited. Some people join because they see errors and want to correct them; others join because they see surprisingly good things and want to add to them-- that was my personal reason.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
<<In a message dated 4/2/2009 5:18:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carcharothwp@googlemail.com writes:
Will, look at the example I provided earlier in this thread. Established editors and admins were blindly reverting vandalism and leaving an article in a state of previous vandalism. How do you begin to address that problem?>>
You don't address it by allowing any admin who got their badge knowing next to nothing about NOR (as many don't) do remove the right of established users who have been in-project ten times longer than they. I will never, not ever, agree to giving admins extra powers. They already have several powers they should not have in my opinion. The idea behind admins, imho, was supposed to be that they are helpful janitors clearning up messes, not theat they were thought police enforcing the boundary line with clubs.
If we want to create new powers, then we need perhaps new categories of user. For those users who do not want to be police, but are quite willing to enhance the content of the project, we should create a parallel track, not a subordinate one. No matter what anyone states, if a reviewer's right can be removed at the whim (yes whim) of any admin, then reviewers are subordinate to admins. They should not be.
Will Johnson
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