On 5/15/07, Peter Jacobi peter_jacobi@gmx.net wrote:
"John Lee" johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
And so is [[Alpenhotel Oberjoch]] and about some ten millions other hotels. Most, even the smallest, companies in tourism have some secondary source at hand (e.g. the web site of the town, they are located in), so that by literal reading of the guidelines, they are includable.
And the problem with this is...???
Wasting human and material rersources for something which isn't our core business.
This zero-sum thinking ignores the fact that we're a volunteer project. Most volunteers in these areas would probably not do any other work anyway. The worst that could happen is that our stub categorisers, etc. waste a little more time - which is not a problem in the big scheme of things.
I'm really baffled, that while
arguing about WP:NPOV and and WP:V and WP:whatever, it is sometimes forgotten, that the project started with the mission to write an encyclopedia.
Er, yes, and being a tertiary source, is it a problem if we have articles on topics with existent secondary sources? The concept of notability is not relevant any more because we have finally been able to whittle the problem down to one of verifiability. If you can write a verifiable article on something, why not do it? An encyclopaedia should have information on anything where there are already existent secondary sources.
Regarding the argument to have zillions of articles
in [[:Category:Bed and breakfasts in London]] and the like, doesn't disturb more "traditional" articles, just look how it dilutes our efforts of quality assurance.
This immediatist thinking won't fly outside the problem of living people. I see no problem with stubs on everything with existent secondary sources - the exception of course being biographies of living people, since these types of articles have very troubling consequences if poorly maintained. With almost everything else, the cost of slightly less than par quality articles is very small.
There exists something where every fact, non-fact and
opinion can be freely presented, it's called the WWW and you buy your server space yourself there.
We're supposed to be a compendium of published human knowledge, so this sort of simplistic approach to notability isn't really conforming to our policies.
Peter
Johnleemk