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Fastfission wrote:
On 10/26/05, Alphax alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't Tor back-tracable by timing attack in China due to the size of the network, making any "anonymity" useless?
I think he's less concerned with anonymity than he is about getting around the Great Firewall and being able to edit Wikipedia. If he's worried about prosecution, well, that's his own fear and he should be aware of what is or what is not legally/technically possible. Anyway, that's an issue for Tor and him to worry about, not us.
Hehe, the Great Firewall of China. Remind me to put that on Uncyclopedia :)
There are a host of reasonably simple technological solutions which could mitigate most of this (i.e. allowing users with reasonable edit histories to edit from tor accounts) but as Jimbo said all of that means very little unless we sit down and hack out the code for it.
I like that proposal. I also like the idea of getting more developers, even if it means training them ourselves. (Hrm, can someone write a Wikibook on Mediawiki?)
On 10/26/05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550 , the problem isn't having the code to hand - we have code patches on hand for lots of possible options. The problem is deciding what is actually a good idea socially. What's an obviously elegant solution to the problem? If there isn't one, what compromise would make things better rather than worse?
I took a look at it briefly and it seemed to be 80% of the people saying, "This might be a good option to have in some circumstances" and another 20% saying "I dunno, vandals might be able to still abuse it!" Personally, I think it looks like an instance of the perfect trumping the good.
Damn, where on en.wp do I vote for that?? I voted for it on buzilla ages ago.
If the code is there to do the "block certain IPs from allowing anon edits but not from account creation" trick, why not just turn it on? If all hell breaks loose we can turn it off again. We don't have to get it perfect on the first try, do we? Whatever happens, the experience would definitely inform future discussion and speculation about these sorts of things.
Agreed. Excellent idea. Turn it on and see what happens.
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