What I was trying to say, I've been on-list for about 16 months now, and have 20 years plus prior Internet experience. I think Marc is accurate insofar as the tone of the list in the last few months is different than it was in the year before that; it's not being used for as many serious high level discussions and is somewhat more grumpy.
Not being used for as many serious high level discussions... interesting point. When was foundation-l started? Have all the serious discussions moved there leaving just the rants here?