I gather then you would remove the articles on Shakespeare? What he wrote was fictions. Or if you consider plays as in some sense "real", then would you eliminate the articles on Tolstoy and Jane Austen? Or would you write about their lives only without discussing their works at all. "Milton had an interesting life, and he wrote some books too, but we're going to only talk about the political ones, not the poetry" ??? "Tolkien had an eminent career as a philologist, for his novels, see elsewhere" ??
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Ian Woollard ian.woollard@gmail.com wrote:
2008/7/12 David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com:
"Stuff that people have made up" includes all of literature, philosophy, religion, music, the fine arts, architecture, artifacts, politics, and human organisations in general. Everything except the physical and biological world. In other words, most of the encyclopedia.
No. Architecture isn't simply made up, it's *made*. As are artifacts, and politics and human organisations. Philosophy, on balance isn't simply made up, as it's supposed to reflect the real world.
I mean, everything is made up/invented/discovered, but if what it represents is supposed to be real then it stays, otherwise it gets moved to the other encyclopedia, whatever a good name would be.
I gather the intended meaning was popular culture.
No. The arts, fiction and music. *Real* culture probably doesn't count as it's real, but popular culture is more or less just fiction and music.
How do you intend to distinguish popular culture as distinct from high culture, or recognized academic culture?
Is it in, or intending to represent the real world, rather than, say, fiction? Religion is supposed to be true. Academic culture is the way academia actually works.
Or do you mean it to exclude fiction altogether? On what justification can you exclude fiction, but not paintings or music?
No, no. They would move if they're on a fictitious subject, or unless they are supposed to be essentially true (note that they don't have to be correct, they just have to be claimed to be true, or thought at some time to be true). Some paintings could be kept, but I expect they would almost all move. In cases where they are borderline, they could be in both places, it's not a problem.
And it's not an exclusion at all, it's a division. It's not historically uncommon to divide encyclopedias up into sections.
-- David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
-- -Ian Woollard
We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. If we lived in a perfectly imperfect world things would be a lot better.
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