On 4/25/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
I don't see why civility needs to be limited to community members, however that term may be defined.
Social issues only kick in with community members.
Dialogue before dispute saves a lot of problems. When you delete first you are presuming that you are right do so, and that sets in motion a completely different social dynamic.
I'm not going to contact the person who added all the "Fair Use" images I remove. I don't even know who they were in most cases. If they object they are free to contact me. Contacting people before making edits is not normal wikipedia practice.
How can a single entry show persistance?
Either due to the content of the link or outside intelligence. Or because it was placed in the form of: <div style="position:absolute;top:-50px;left:-50px;widthttp://www.yourlink.com/ ]</div>
Those participating in the discussion clearly have a goal in mind. It is also clear from that discussion that some links are accepted, and others not.
Some are caught some are not.
Each needs to be examined on its own merit. Some will indeed be no better than spam links. That still doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to start a dialogue as our first line of attack.
Tried that. It hasn't worked so far (heh in fact "appear to be a confused newbie" is one of the tactics I seen suggested for getting links into wikipedia.