Returning to the previous discussion and comments by SlimVirgin and Fred Bauder, I too had the sense that there was an agenda behind all of this. Given that SlimVirgin and I have widely divergent viewpoints on the value of BADSITES, it boggles my mind to think exactly what agenda was being served.
And for the record, I'd never dream of joining up with WR, and only found out about its existence because of BADSITES - which in turn I found out about because DennyColt's userpage was on my watchlist, as we had been editing a few of the same articles.
On 4/27/07, Blu Aardvark jeffrey.latham@gmail.com wrote:
jayjg wrote:
Umm, that's kind of a personal attack. It's also kind of odd coming from the person who yesterday said on the list "Well, naturally Jay would agree with you *rolls eyes*."
Nice strawman there. Too bad that has nothing to do with any of this.
And yes, when you are in agreement with SlimVirgin, I don't take that entirely seriously, because there is an active conflict-of-interest there. You are dedicated to protecting your friend, which isn't entirely a bad thing, but you are certainly not neutral.
Wow, someone said you were an antisemite and neo-Nazi? Where?
I don't have the time or desire to go fishing through year-old drama on Wikipedia right now.
No wonder you cracked down so hard on those people who were calling Wikipedia editors "Mossad agents", "CIA agents", AIPAC agents", "sluts", "whores", etc.
Oh wait. You didn't.
Well, naturally. I moved or deleted the worst of the personal attacks, and did try to clean up some of the other allegations, but I wasn't entirely successful. Realize that there were multiple admins, and Selina was root. There were times when I did move or delete posts, and then I was reversed without explanation. You wouldn't be aware of all this, naturally.
I could have sworn it had something to do with the creation of all sorts of vandal sockpuppets - maybe you thought that was within policy, though?
The vandals sockpuppets came later. You and I and pretty much everyone knows this.
And to those ignorant of how I ran the webforum, I took great pains to ensure that problematic content would stay out of search engines.
First,
I created a members-only subforum for users who wanted to vent personal attacks, and later, after the incident with Katefan0, I modified the board settings so that the "editors" forum would also stay out of
search
engines. Now, I'll admit that these steps were not entirely sufficient, but I can also say, and honestly, that I have done more than Wikipedia has done to protect people's privacy and their right not to have libel about them spread around the internet.
Err, yes, when the libel was being spread high and thick, and the personal attacks were flying furiously, you definitely suggested they keep it to the private area of the forum, though, of course, you didn't actually enforce that. And that pretty much put an end to it, I'm sure.
I did enforce it, when I could, but I wasn't always able to do that as effectively as I wanted to, for reasons I've already described.
You cannot take any moral high ground, Jay.
LOL!
This doesn't even deserve a response.
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