Jeff Raymond wrote:
Rich Holton wrote:
Given the recent discussions on this list, and the continuing increase in de-facto requirements for new admins, I have to wonder if we are not now well on the way to the creation of an elite class on Wikipedia.
It appears to me that the vocal representatives of the current crop of admins (meaning those who have become admins within the last year or so) have left far behind the idea that being an admin is "no big deal". They see being an admin as a big deal, and want things to remain that way.
You're not wrong, and I'm of the opinion that we are in a situation where we have an elite class already. The problem is twofold:
- Adminship *is* a big deal, whether we want it to be or not. We trust
them to do too much, expect a lot of them, and it's very difficult to remove or sanction an administrator who acts inappropriately.
- More importantly, adminship is viewed as a reward rather than a
responsibility, thus creating a protector group of admins. There's one recently-promoted admin in particular who embodies this concept, but there are many like him.
Yes and yes.
Perhaps the solution will require a complete re-thinking of how "special rights" are allocated on Wikipedia, or even a complete re-thinking of how vandalism is handled. But unless those involved are willing to perceive the problem, and willing to engage the problem, nothing will happen towards solving the problem.
It has to, and you're absolutely right. Judging by the current RfA crop, it doesn't appear to be changing either - one person I'm very uncomfortable with but can't figure out why is sailing through, and one person who really should be given the bit is being opposed for even sillier reasons than some of the opposes on mine.
The Foundation is unlikely to get involved, and Jimbo really should, but won't. I wish there was a better answer.
If Jimbo has to step in to solve this problem we have failed. What it takes is a person with the power to act to take _bold_ action and start appointing admins according to more liberal and sensible criteria. Those of us who have been here a long time need to be ready to support him during the inevitable storm that follows. Just talking about this problem will solve nothing.
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