On 29/02/2008, Alex Sawczynec glasscobra15@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Screamer scream@datascreamer.com wrote:
I post this to the working list, because I want to opine, and I want to draw some attention to what I believe is a bad trend. I've read some RFA's and the recent RFB. I asked Riana if I could use her RFB as an example. I'm not asking anyone to go support or oppose it, you all can do that on your on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/Riana
When I look at some of the opposes and Neutrals, primarily the ones by Animate and FM, I get a little confused. (regarding the KM nomination) Since when did RFA and RFB become political and not about trust and abuse potential? It seems these discussions have evolved away from that. After reading Jimbo's opinion on the matter, and this was made, what a few years back, perhaps he should go semi nilly willy.
I mean what do you have to do anyway, judge RFA, renames, bots on advice of BAG. How does kelly martins rfa nomination translate here. It does not.
Any project can use good custodians, but damn, the bar is high.
./scream
I completely agree with you. I'm disappointed in how several of these RfBs have turned out, but most especially Riana's and Neil's (pre-civility incident). Riana nominating Kelly Martin has absolutely nothing to do with how she would perform as a bureaucrat. It's not as if she would go completely rouge and promote a candidate with KM's percentage level. There's a similar issue with Neil's; people are opposing him because of his stance on re-confirmation RfAs; but do we not trust him to either vote oppose and recuse himself from closing, or close according to consensus regardless of his personal feelings?
- GC
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In my humble opinion, while it was pretty poor judgement to nominate someone like Kelly Martin, it doesn't show that she'd go "Oh what the heck" and promote anyway. On Meta-wiki, where I am a bureaucrat, I nominated Adambro for adminship, and it didn't go well. Now, if someone like me is going to refrain from promoting people the community think are unsuitable, I think that assuming someone like Riana would is just poor judgement on the voters' part, and would be a great shame if she wasn't successful. Maybe we need a lower promotion rate for bcrats - after all, they have an easier job than admins.
And by the way, Riana is the best candidate there (possibly along with The Rambling Man, but I don't know him so well, but he seems to be popular). It will be Wikipedia's loss if no one was promoted this time.