JAY JG said:
From: "Tony Sidaway" minorityreport@bluebottle.com
JAY JG said:
From: "Tony Sidaway" minorityreport@bluebottle.com Gregory Maxwell said:
When it comes down to it, if we only use the criteria of "verifiable and NPOV" we end up with the prohibition on original research as being the only real control on what can go into wikipedia after a little tidying up.
That's basically it.
Fortunately, Wikipedia's notability policies help keep out much of the trivia your proposal would allow. Unfortunately, these policies are much clearer in the case of articles about individuals than they are in the case of articles about schools.
Non-notability has been rejected as a criterion for deletion.
By you, perhaps. Clearly not by many others.
I think it's rather deeper than that. The concept isn't well defined and even as a vague notion "non-notability" commands no consensus, though of course some people like to act as if it does or even as if they were arbiters of what it means.
Inappropriate biographical entries can be rejected on grounds of vanity.
And for the large number that cannot be rejected on the grounds of vanity, the various other notability criteria explicitly outlined in [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]] serve well.
Indeed. I'll resist the temptation to point out that the word "notability" appears nowhere in that compilation, and that the recently created "Wikipedia:Notability" page, apparently pasted from an article in Demi's userspace, is not official policy. The word is not helpful. Inasmuch as it's widely understood, it's controversial. Insamuch is it isn't actively opposed, it's too vague to be useful.
Humans tend to be a lot less intrinsically encyclopedic, as individuals, than institutions or even cultural manifestations such as the infamous Pokemon.
Define "intrinsically encyclopedic".
Empirically this can be defined as "having a calculable likelihood, as a class of subjects, to sustain an article that wouldn't end up being deleted if listed on VfD." In general it seems to be pretty difficult to get consensus to delete a school article, of instance, even one about a little-known high school about which nothing much is known, whereas if I wrote an article about a random human, my friend's brother say, when listed on VfD it would die a mercifully quick death.