WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/28/2009 1:15:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, doc.wikipedia@ntlworld.com writes:
We have always placed the burden of proof-of-notability on the
contributing
author, not on the rest of the AfD posters. That's been true across
each
AfD for notability that I've seen. I doubt it's going to change. I
did
not create that, it's just the way it is.
Will Johnson
I disagree. To delete requires a consensus to delete. That is, a consensus of people believe the article has no place on wikipedia.>>
You can't disagree, because I never said what you are disagreeing to. Read what I said more clearly and you will see that I'm not speaking about a consensus, nor a lack of consensus. I'm not talking about deletion, nor keeping. I'm speaking of *who* has the burden of proof to show "notability", or the lack of notability. The author? Or everyone else? We've always recognized that it's the contributing author who has that burden-of-proof.
Will Johnson
Oh, I assure you I can disagree. I can disagree with almost anything.
I disagree that the burden of proof is on the contributing author. The burden is on those wishing to delete something to achieve a consensus to delete. What level of "evidence" or "proof" will convince a consensus of wikipedians is up to the wikipedians participating. I suspect many people will be satisfied by different things.