On 3/26/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/03/07, Anthony wikilegal@inbox.org wrote:
All of this said, I believe Larry had a conversation with some higher-ups in the free content movement, and some of his misconceptions were cleared up. But he still thinks it might be a good idea to license Citizendium created content under CC-BY-NC (or is it CC-BY-NC-SA, he doesn't seem to understand the difference).
Does anything with NC count as an open content licence? It certainly doesn't for Wikimedia purposes.
Depends on who you talk to, I suppose. Anything with NC doesn't count as a free content license under the "Free Content and Expression Definition", which seems to have its website down at the moment.
I just found one of the more recent posts by Larry which suggests that he does now have a better understanding of the GFDL: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,607.msg5127.html#msg5127
Here's a post where he suggests he doesn't care so much what license is used: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,607.30.html
In another post he says that he's leaning toward CC-BY-NC, and in yet another he suggests that Citizendium is going to own the copyright on submissions by contributors. That one is pretty bold, so I looked up the message number: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,607.60.html
"What activities does by-nc restrict us from? We're the copyright holder. As such, we can do whatever we want with our own articles."
After Larry made a final call for discussion on the mailing list, I asked him what the procedure was for those of us who refused to license our content under CC-BY-NC - how could we go about removing our articles from Citizendium. He didn't really answer the question, but said that I was "the first person [he's] seen who's had such a strong negative reaction [to CC-BY-NC]". I pointed him to http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655 and http://freecontentdefinition.org/Licenses/NC (thanks Erik), and then two days later he announces that he's holding off on the license decision.
So once again I'll ask that if you care about this you let Larry know. Of course, if you just think CZ is going to fail anyway I guess you can save your time and not bother.
Anthony