Anthere wrote:
But Erik, you are trying to have edit wars solution be based uniquely on 2 or 3 wik-like people, while there are many other very regular and sometimes very respected contributors, who actually sometimes get into edit war and reversion war themselves in the heat of the moment.
Of course. And these are now and will always be a minority. The interminable debates over ways to deal with these people are completely out of proportion to their importance, and are far more harmful than what this handful could ever be. The Paris Commune was overrun because the communards did not know when to stop debating among themselves.
I can support something like the three revert concept as a guideline, but certainly not as a rule, and even less as an enforceable rule. We need to begin trusting users again. That was a key factor in Wikipedia's growth. If Wik or some other identified person is a persistent problem user then let's deal with it without inventing more new rules to plague the average user. The bad characters will more likely than not be multiply offensive, and decisons can be based on weighing a variety of factors rather than literal rules.
Once an understanding has been reached, someone with the authority needs to accept the responsibilities for following through.
Ec