What if any zealot realises an objection to any reference whatever to Mr X being Gay, having children outside of marriage, being of non-caucasion marriage, having "***-challenged" outsode of marriage, etc.
This is a problem that wikipedia can and does have.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Briggs" christiaan@last-straw.net To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Political correctness vs NPOV Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:01:09 +0000
Yes, an ambiguous term, like "discrimination." Many terms that are equated mostly with negative connotations (mostly for political reasons) are in fact neutral terms. Hence we have negative and positive discrimination for instance.
Christiaan
On 24 Feb 2005, at 7:48 pm, Ray Saintonge wrote:
That effectively converts the term into an ambiguous one. We may easily agree that the three issues that you list have more positive than negative connotations, but the person who believes that trees cause pollution will see the political correctness of the environmentalist as a negative. This does not bode well for any menaingful use of the term. Ec
Christiaan Briggs wrote:
Political correctness may often be used as a pejorative term but it actually has positive connotations as well as the negative that Ray has pointed out. Political correctness has been used for all sorts of issues, e.g. civil rights movement, womens rights, and the environment to name a few. In this sense it is not always something to be "overcome" but encouraged in some instances.
Christiaan
On 24 Feb 2005, at 6:19 pm, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Arno M wrote:
Just out of curiosity - does Political correctness apply as NPOV or as an ideology as described below?
Political correctness is independent of the ideology it supports. It can attach to any ideology. It will generally involve supporting the "right" views as they prevail in the society out of fear of being seen as different. Sometimes the penalty for not being politically correct may be social ostracism; in other circumstances, such as in Nazi Germany, the penalties could be far more severe. In the United States supporting the troops in Iraq is a matter of political correctness.
Thus I would see political correctness as neither NPOV nor an ideology. At the same time practitioners of political correctness have a personal need to believe that their actions express a NPOV, something which they can easily confirm in the positive feedback loop of their own community. Overcoming political correctness requires both insight and courage.
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