Delirium a écrit:
Anthere wrote:
So, are you saying that we should mask female genitalia because the world is generally offended by watching it, while we should display male genitalia because the world is generally not offended by watching it ?
Are you also gonna remove pictures of women who show their hair because in most of the world women hide their hair ?
And how exactly do you measure the level of offensiveness of female genitalia in the world compare to level of offensiveness of these humiliation pictures in the prison article ?
Mind you, I think most of the world think these are VERY offensive, so by your standards, they should be immediately put into a separate page.
For what it's worth, I think they should both be put on a separate page, prominently linked, but not displayed inline.
I don't like the idea of us telling people that they are wrong to be more offended by one than by the other though. Changing that, if you believe it needs to be changed, is a debate for somewhere else---Wikipedia shouldn't be a tool to promote particular ideologies about media, apart from the very basic one that we support GFDL'd material.
I don't think most of the world has women hide their hair, though I could be wrong. A sizable minority does though. I would not think we should put pictures of women's hair in a particular language's Wikipedia if a large majority of that language's speakers found it offensive (I don't know if this is the case for any actual languages, so that's hypothetical). Our goal should be to produce a free encyclopedia, not to force people to look at images they find offensive simply because we, as the moral arbiters of the world in a somewhat western-imperialist fashion, have deemed that people who are offended by them are wrong and should adopt our (much better, of course) political and ethical beliefs instead.
-Mark
Okay. So, I would prefer the prison pictures to be placed in a separate gallery, because I think they are offensive for most people. Can I do that ? Or am I gonna be immediately reverted ? What is people opinion about that ? I won't do it if people are widely against it.
What should we do with the clitoris picture ? As soon as we choose *voluntarily* to display male genitalia, while hiding female genitalia, we choose *delibaretly* to *convey* the fact *WE* consider one offensive and the other not. In short, we *force* people to think in a particular way. We are not neutral any more. Does that not bother you Mark ?
Honestly ?
Anthere