This matter is partially before the arbitration committee with respect to RickK. I question whether anything can be done with respect to this sort of situation (which you, 172, and I have also sometimes been in). There is at present no rule regarding reversions, however extensive, simply a proposed rule of 3. Likewise advocacy of a right or left wing cultural and political point of view is common among a number of Wikipedia editors including ourselves. I fear that to a certain extent this is simply monkey see, monkey do.
I suggest that the solution to the general problem is to made an actually enforceable rule regarding repeated reversions. An additional issue is to insist that an article which falls along a left-right cultural and political spectrum include material which authentically sets forth both viewpoints.
Fred
From: "Abe Sokolov" abesokolov@hotmail.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:53:20 +0000 To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Hector vs. VV/RickK proxy flame wars
Ive been trying unsuccessfully to keep the recent changes list from looking lik this: HectorRodriguez's reversion of VeryVerily's additions to [[mass murder]], RickK's reversions of HectorRodriguez's reversions, HectorRodriguez's reversions of VeryVerily's reversions of HectorRodriguez's reversion, RickK's reversions of HectorRodriguez's reversions of VeryVerily's reversions of HectorRodriguez's of [[Manuel Noriega]], [[Panama]], [[History of Panama]], [[Communist Party of France]], [[Saddam Hussein]], [[mass murder]], and countless other articles.
In effect, RickK and VV have been automatically (and arbitrarily) reverting every single edit by Hector, subjecting him to a policy of auto revert reserved only for hard-banned trolls - a recipe for edit wars. On a positive note, RickK showed signs of agreeing to change his tactics in a recent edit to the Saddam page, which addressed content issues without the ad hominems. VV, however, still feels no need to defend his edits with counter-arguments backed up by factual evidence on the talk pages. He calls Hector a vandal, which he feels is sufficient reason to delete any edit by this user. When I try to give him advice for avoiding edit wars, he attacks me incessantly and refuses to contemplate his own biases.
Someone else has to put a stop to these silly ideological proxy battles. I keep on failing to steer the discussion toward content issues.
See my comments on [[Talk:Saddam Hussein]], [[Talk:Manuel Noriega]], and [[Talk:Mass murder]] for further details.
User:172
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