Intersting that he completely ignores the existence of WP:Israel, which has had some quite embarrasing POV on its main page in the past, and is still prone to canvassing attempts by some of the less neutral editors.
I had actually suggested to WP:Palestine that they change their name to WP:Palestinians, as there is no such place as Palestine at the moment, but was shouted down...
#57
On 5/16/08, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
2008/5/14 Elias Friedman elipongo@gmail.com:
A closer look at Wikipedia's inner workings, however, reveals there is more to the story. Research carried out by Social Media expert Dr. Andre Oboler, a Legacy Heritage Fellow at NGO Monitor, reveals that it was EI, not CAMERA, that manipulated Wikipedia to achieve its ideological goals.
I'm a little bemused. Does this really translate as "we got caught, but we were innocent, and besides, this proves there *is* a conspiracy by the other lot?"
It's like trying to settle a squabble between twelve-year-olds. "No, he was poking *me*, I didn't do anything!"
I have my suspicions that there is a problem on the Palestinean side of this dispute on Wikipedia, too, but I have no evidence to back that up, and the NGO Monitor website hasn't got a report published that I can see that provides any evidence.
NGO Monitor is, alas, an Israeli anti-Palestinean-NGO and anti-anti-Israeli-NGO group, and thus anything but unbiased in this matter.
If someone finds or provides actual evidence that EI or others are in fact manipulating Wikipedia improperly or campaigning or whatnot, then it should be pursued in the usual venues. If CAMERA's allies want to insult us without releasing actual evidence and diffs, I don't see any reason to take it seriously.
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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